Monday, November 25, 2024

214 - Mats Ljungqvist (implicitly) and Boris Pistorius reject Andromeda story

Looking at the Short and Clear statement
from Sweden and Germany

(source with link is in a post about Mats Ljungqvist)

KEY STATEMENTS ABOUT SUSPECTS:


SUMMARY:

 - STATE ACTOR -
- One Rogue state, not more -
- Not USA, RU -
- Not pro-Ukrainian Group -
- Not a USA order to another state or group -
- They know how and what happened there -

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

In March German Defence Minister Pistorius warned about premature conclusions concerning Andromeda story brought by US newspapers.

One month later in April the head of SWE investigation implicitly rejects the Andromeda story

He explains that prime suspect is one single state actor in all blowups with significant resources and knowledge - which is the main clue. 

There are theoretically VERY few companies or groups that have the ability which hints to companies producing submarines, drones or mini-submarines.

It was not NATO as an organization.

It was not USA + Ukraine. It was not Russia. But could it be UK...? 

He speaks in singular, not in plural - no coordination in the act itself.

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8 March 2023 - German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius warned...

... against reaching premature conclusions on who was responsible for blowing up the Nord Stream pipelines, suggesting the attack could also have been a ‘false flag’ operation to blame Ukraine.

8 March 2023 - Germany cautious over report that pro-Ukraine group responsible for Nord Stream pipeline attack

Germany’s defense minister voiced caution Wednesday over media reports that a pro-Ukraine group was involved in blowing up the Nord Stream gas pipelines in the Baltic Sea last year.

German daily newspaper Die Zeit and public broadcasters ARD and SWR reported Tuesday that investigators were able to largely reconstruct how the pipelines from Russia to Germany were sabotaged on the night of Sept. 26, 2022.

German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius said he read the news reports “with great interest” but warned against drawing hasty conclusions.

“We need to clearly differentiate whether it was a Ukrainian group that acted on the orders of Ukraine or … without the government’s knowledge,” he told reporters in Stockholm.

[MRT: A month later this option was ruled out] 

Speaking on the sidelines of a European Union defense ministers meeting, Pistorius said some experts also had raised the possibility of a so-called false flag operation by a group pretending to be Ukrainian.

“It would not be the first time in the history of such events,” the German minister said. “As such, I’m refraining from drawing premature conclusions.”

 

[MRT: Two statements which are hinting to certain direction. There were more.]


FROM ANOTHER POST

JUST A THREE DAYS AFTER

Posts related to NATO here.
Jens Stoltenberg also (implicitly)
disclosed certain aspects. 


RELATED POSTS:
[MRT: He also stated that it was not Russia, USA nor pro-Ukrainian group]








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