Are non-Russian claims about who has done it consistent?
SUMMARY:
This post examines the consistency of statements from non-Russian sources regarding the sabotage of the Nord Stream pipeline.
There is a pattern indicative of US and UK involvement, with various officials hinting at US foreknowledge and others making direct accusations against the UK and USA having further undefined role.
Key Takeaways
Involvement Allegations: A number of non-Russian officials and politicians point towards UK and/or US complicity in the Nord Stream sabotage.Dismissed Claims: The German government dismissed Polish and Czech assertions that the pipelines were legitimate targets in a case of the Ukrainian involvement.Orbán's Statement: Viktor Orbán remarked that the sabotage happened "under American direction."
Trump's Implications: Donald Trump suggested that Russia was not the culprit, alluding to other potential actors.
Danish Prime Minister's Remarks: The Danish Prime Minister's comments are interpreted as acknowledging UK involvement and the possibility of Russian retaliation.Investigation Findings: A Swedish investigator's report seemingly rules out both Russia and the US as suspects, instead implying one rogue government was accountable in all bombings.The investigation’s Crime Scene Reconstruction, based on the available dataset, has concluded that a small group within the UK government was the principal actor. The USA is not considered a prime suspect but rather a co-conspirator that learned about the mission from Norway, which raised the alarm and warned its allies about a possible outbreak of conflict in Europe with unpredictable consequences. The USA’s response was to allow events to unfold and positioned itself to benefit from the situation. The amount of coordination and flow of information between USA - UK - Germany during last week after the NOR whistle-blowing is not known in depth. Interpretation should take this into consideration. The exact role of USA is therefore up to deeper investigation. The USA has undeniably helped the perpetrator by holding NATO together and firm in a Deter and Defend posture preventing any Russian retaliation enabling pleasant undeniability to the perpetrator. Note also the management of narratives after the event described in separate posts.
LIST OF NON-RU STATEMENTS
[MRT: He says that "The US government was aware of preparations,
American side knew about it in advance, the USA did nothing to interfere"]
[MRT: He says that "could not have been committed
without the involvement of the US and its allies"]
[MRT: "Sabotage on the Nord Streams is an Act of state terrorism. After all, if the authorities of any state are involved in organizing or committing a gas pipeline explosion, then such an action should be qualified as such." … this looks like, same conclusion I made after deep research of legal aspects here and here, and based on two security laws mentioned above.
Peter Szijjártó also says that: "Any response must be proportionate to the severity of such an attack" … this looks like an appeal to Russia to respond only proportionally to the crime. This further hints that it was not done by Ukraine but another state.
Note that he also: "The official also criticized the EU leadership's response to the sabotage."
The response - the "Prague cover-up" as I call it is discussed in this post here.]
[MRT: "...The fifth important new lesson from reality: European policy-making has collapsed. Europe has given up defending its own interests: all that Europe is doing today is unconditionally following the foreign policy line of the US Democrats — even at the cost of its own self-destruction. The sanctions we have imposed are damaging fundamental European interests: they are driving up energy prices and making the European economy uncompetitive. We let the blowing up of the Nord Stream pipeline go unchallenged..." ...He basically confirms the wat the data show about boomerang effect of sanctions on European economy - here which led directly to the The $1.5 Trillion Margin Call on EU energy Utilities]
[MRT: “I don’t want to get our country in trouble, so I won’t answer it.
But I can tell you who it wasn’t, was Russia.” My hypothesis uncovered (in short) that Norway informed USA that UK has launched a mission against Nordstream, then they withdrew from the Baltic sea and stepped aside. It is unclear if they tried to stop the attack or silently stepped aside becoming co-conspirators.]
[MRT: She says that "Things can happen that we have not had the imagination to imagine" and "We are vulnerable, we are worried, and we are in very, very close dialogue with our allies." and "I listen a lot to what Putin says. Both in his speech yesterday, but also on other occasions. And I notice that it is said directly from Putin's side that several different weapons and methods may be used." ...Well, her statement happened after her urgent meeting in London where she flew while she spoke on phone with other leaders. Based on other research it looks like she describes that the UK has done it, that Russia was looking at retaliation.]
[MRT: To understand the infamous: "Thank you, USA" requires to know what happened. The research shows that he learned that the USA was informed about the UK´s mission, did not stop it, but steped aside. Many details are yet to be researched.]
[MRT: There is no contradiction between mine and SWE investigation. Mats Ljundgqvist statements mentions that the Russia, USA were excluded from suspects and that a government is behind the act. Mats Ljundgqvist excludes amateur pro-Ukrainian group. My conclusion of the UK government being the main rogue actor is not excluded and there is diverse large set of data/evidence ponting to London showing what happened and how. Mats Ljundgqvist has not defined what type of the crime was it - sabotage, terrorist or else as explained on my other post. Mats Ljundgqvist statements seem to be hinting that there are SWE security constraints which prohibit to mention the main suspect. Note that later SWE closed investigation, that was shortly after SWE and UK closed bilateral cooperation, see here]
OTHER RELATED POSTS:
This post is a second half of a summary how (informed) VIPs share with the rest their knowledge.
UPDATE:
9 Oct 2024 - "Russia has evidence of US and UK involvement in Nord Stream pipeline sabotage, and the publication of this evidence will depend on the situation"
FINAL NOTE:
(benchmarking)
-> Th investigation conclusions are consistent with both non-Russian and Russian a´statements <-
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