Thursday, December 21, 2023

Hersh´s claim vs Hard data - and - Mortymer´s Nordstream hypothesis recap


Just read and see...

This post compares Seymour Hersh´s claim to my data-set.
Each his main point is debunked or explained.

The 2nd part sorts my investigation into logical groups.

The master data sheet will not be publicly available.
Researchers and journalists can request private access.
For contacting me use my twitter account.

(AS ALWAYS: Simple graphics,
all data is properly dates with links to sources
red - important, blue - own input)


The core of the Hersh´s claim is:

  1. Biden´s administration has planned how to take down Nordstream pipelines very early in 2022
  2. Biden himself admitted they will take them down if Russia enters Ukraine
  3. Explosives were planted during NATO´s Baltops naval exercise
  4. Guilty is the Kaersarge group with Norweigean minehunters 
  5. Norway was active participant
  6. US Poseidon 8 plane dropped a buoy which remotely triggered charges
  7. Nuland and her pile of rusting junk metal statement  

EACH single point commented:

  1. Biden´s administration has planned how to take down Nordstream pipelines very early in 2022
    -> This data-set does not support such finding AND no such data to support this were found.
    -> There is no evidence of political positioning of USA for it to execute the mission, actually the opposite. The USA, after the 19-09-2022 tried to de-escalate the crisis to prevent war - here.
    -> The USA closed in 2021 "Merkel´s deal" that if Russia enters Ukraine the NS2 will not be certified - here and here
    -> The UK, after Brexit, lost all legal ways how to stop Russian energy expansion - here
    -> The UK was voicing very much for EU to stop course of its energy policy - here
    -> There is no evidence of USA other naval forces getting into position would the crisis get out of hand, the USA actually left Baltic sea on 21-22-09-2022 due to risk to its own security - here. 
    -> This data set shows that the USA was actually supporting Germany in protecting pipelines since Baltops exercises - here
    -> The USA actually found out about the danger to Nordstream and warned its allies in June,
    The release of this news was 27-09-2022 as a part of PR after the USA left Baltic sea - here. 
    ->The ONLY data I found about US divers was here - US-UK training mission in Florida

  2. Biden himself admitted they will take them down, unspecified answer how
    -> Biden spoke ONLY about Nordstream 2, the prime target was the NS1: video here
    -> Listen carefully, he describes the Merkel´s deal he just re-signed with GER new chancellor Scholz. He clearly states the condition "IF Russia does X then..." which means that NS2 will not get the certification and that is what happened, both countries kept their promise - here.
    -> This investigation shows that Biden and Scholz were re-signing Merkel´s deal here, here
    -> Biden originally allowed NS2 in June 2021, for USA it is not an issue of national security but is for the UK as many time stated here and here.
    -> Note that USA understood well that GER needs energy diversification and was ok with NS1 but was against over-reliance of its key ally on Russia - here. 
    -> Compare this with what was the official narrative of the UK and specially Truss narrative here

  3. Explosives were planted during NATO´s Baltops naval exercise
    -> This claim looks very odd. The remote trigger by passing plane by dropping a sono-buoy with the timer to be still postponed allowing deniability? Yet planes have trackers - here.
    -> The more complex the operation is the higher risk something could go wrong.
    -> Several experts e.g. FRA navy deep diver, or DK navy experts point to sub-surface approach - here and here.
    -> This investigation has found a evidence of several states having hydro-acoustic data about submarine/mini-submarine/large submersible-drone operating in the area from 19-25 September. 
    -> All September naval exercises included anti-submarine part, there were several ASW helicopters staying long in the area flying in paths resembling anti-submarine operation.
    -> It is possible that the claim has been created in order to allow explanation of possible sono-buoy if found. Exercises: POL+POR, GER+LIT+FRA+FIN, SWE.
    -> The mission to attack Nordstream was highly complex in contested area under constant surveillance of several states, surface approach would be very risky - here
    -> Large navies do have very high-end capabilities and well trained deep divers who are accustomed to work under stress. They exercise different options, e.g. being left on the open sea. There is no point to use low tech on high end target in nofailure-allowed type of mission here
    -> The closer to the 26-09-2022 the better chance of concealment - here
    -> The longer time from the 26-09-2022 the higher risk of discovery - here
    -> The window of opportunity is from 17 July 2022 when Nordstream run internal (pigging) and external (visual) checks due to yearly maintenance. It is done by 3rd independent parties and is required for re-insurance. Explosives/charges could be found 

  4. Guilty is the Kaersarge group with Norweigean minehunters 
    -> Norway was not the country to blame but the country which found out the UK´s plan - here.
    -> Norway (PM Støre and Defence minister Gram) actually warned both USA and its EU allies. The USA informed France and Germany that the area is unsafe for them and that they need to takeover the security of the pipeline the USA was anyway against - here
    -> As a result of Russian nuclear positioning - here and snap Russian anti submarine exercise - here - was conducted near future blast. 

    -> Is the USA culpable? My data-set does not support such data but this investigation shows that it was the UK who planned and executed the mission. The USA left the Baltic sea and started to de-escalate worrying that the crisis could  grow into next European war and possibly in the worse case scenario even a nuclear exchange.

  5. Norway was active participant and wanted to gain large profit

    -> Norway was actually announcing willingness to lower energy exports and domestic prices were too high, their largest customer is the UK whose competitiveness could be effected - here
    -> Norway actually blew a whistle on 19-09-2022 as their security seemed to learn the plans of Truss government - here
    -> Here are more details about the NOR not trusting NATO security and signing separate bilateral defence treaty with the USA just before the Nordstream is hit - here

  6. US Poseidon 8 plane dropped a buoy which remotely triggered charges
    -> This data based investigation is elegantly able to explain the Poseidon P-8 flight from Iceland - here
    -> The USA after finding out about the impending UK´s rogue attack on Nordstream (and perhaps other diversions) was feeling insecure and closed direct bileteral defence agreement just before the Nordstream happened - here. The USA started to feel also uneasy and the crisis as deepening. Putin and his advisors made statements that Russia will protect its territory with weapons. Gazprom is 51% owned by Russian state and Nordstream 2 AG is a doughter company fully owned by Gazprom, incorporated in Switzerland. 
    -> This data based investigation is elegantly able to explain Sikorski moment - here

  7. Nuland and her pile of rusting junk metal at the bottom of the sea statement
    -> The USA acted opportunistically - UK had a diplomatic mission to USA shortly before, during and after the mission. First on unofficial level, then on deeper - meetings were held.
    -> It is unclear how and when exactly the UK informed USA or whether the USA asked the UK about their plans. The special relationship pause hints to USA not agreeing first with the mission.
    -> There was a political split between the US-UK governments and the "special relationship" was even put to pause until it is clarified what was going.
    -> Data point that UK officials arrived to Norfolk on 20-09-2022 one day after NOR warning.
    -> More research is necessary to find out who knew what and how things were managed.
SUMMARY:


This investigation runs from 27-09-2022  
 In early October 2022 I realized a UK submarine S-120 Ambush 
just returned to its home port Faslane in Scotland. 
It was visited by a UK Defense Minister, 
He visited submariners in the sub, not in some meeting room. 
Stated that "Ukrainian war is our war"
  

I asked  DoD shortly after:
 
I made a brief about the Nordstream listing known facts 
It included a thesis that the UK was the only country 
which could be culpable of the deed:
100 shades of Nordstream sabotage I, II,III. 
Like many discussed ad nauseum, my claim had head and heels. 
People like the data I found and shared, wanted more. So I started the blog. 
In January 2023 a friend asked me to contact investigative journalists. 
After appeal by another one I did contacted Larrisa Ward. 
This was before Hersh came with his story.


MORTYMER´S NORDSTREAM HYPOTHESIS

THE DATA - THE EVIDENCE


THE USA-GER  NORDSTREAM POLITICS
How the Nordstream 2 did not got its certification
Was the Nordstream 2 used as an energy weapon?
About the GER-USA Nordstream 2 AG deal
Data show Biden has not ordered Nordstream destruction

THE USA-UK NORDSTREAM POLITICS
About the UK-USA "special relationship"

"MISSION NORDSTREAM", SUBMARINES related
Whose submarine visited Bornholm Deep before the Nordstream was blown up?
The UK chain of command toward SBS

BRITAIN´S NOT JUST HARSH RETHORICS
Mission accomplished - UK - from Energy Importer to Energy Exporter

The Nordstream affair, West Red herrings and Mats Ljungqvist - the SWE investigator - PART 1
The Nordstream affair, East Red herrings and Mats Ljungqvist - the SWE investigator - PART 2
Red herrings in the east, red herrings in the west, red herrings everywhere - PART 3

LIST OF STATES AS SUSPECTS:
Russian Motives to blow Nordstream pipelines
Norway energy exports to EU were at the limit. Why to blow Nordstream then?


OWN INVESTIGATIONS related (other)

ORIGINAL EARLY POSTS


Closing remarks: Here are some Q and A about my investigation.

APPEAL TO JOURNALISTS  INVESTIGATE!
ASK POLITICIANS QUESTIONS! 
IS MY HYPOTHESIS CORRECT?
OFFICIAL INVESTIGATION MUST BE OPEN TO PUBLIC!!!

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the identity must be revealed,
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Wednesday, December 20, 2023

What happens in Norfolk stays in Norfolk - A series of strategic meetings aboard USS Ford on 19-09-2022

- DRAFT - 
5 IMPORTANT ISSUES:

1. Discrepancy - Crisis on hands!
NOR Defense minister timing of his visit to USA does not match official date.
Gram has visited the USA already on 16-09-2022, no info about this found.

2. Norway plays as NATO's eyes and ears in the Arctic
The post in which a claim is explored that Gram and Store brought important intel to USA 

3.  A series of strategic meetings aboard USS Ford on 19-09-2022
For Norway it was about "the core of Norway’s security"
Norway hastily closes Supplementary Defense Cooperation Agreement (SDCA) 
in the event of a war or crisis

4. Landing of the UK Queen Elisabeth which was on a diplomatic mission

5. Why did NOR meet Office of Management and Budget officials at USS Ford?
Were they there actually two times? With NOR and then on 25-09-2022?


NORWAY - 13-09-2022

13 Sept 2022 - The Minister of Defense visits Forsvarsbygg on 13 September

Bjørn Arild Gram will visit Forsvarsbygg on 13 September 2022 to get a briefing on the agency.

13-14 Sept 2022 - Oslo: Arctic Security Forces Roundtable co-chairs meet, focus on strategy

The Arctic Security Forces Roundtable (ASFR) co-chairs, Norwegian Royal Navy Rear Adm. Solveig Krey of the Norwegian Defence Staff and U.S. Air Force Brig. Gen. Edward Vaughan of U.S. European Command met in Oslo Sep. 14 -15 to discuss the content of future meetings.   

15 Sept 2022 - State Secretary Eivind Vad Petersson has a meeting with Germany's new ambassador to Norway, Dr. Detlef Wächter.

15 Sept 2022 - Norway will work with the European Union to seek a more stable gas market 

as soaring prices are not in the Nordic country's best interests, Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Stoere said on Thursday. 

15 Sept 2022 - NOR: Meeting with Equinor, Aker BP and Vår Energi

Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre and Oil and Energy Minister Terje Aasland have invited representatives from the companies Equinor, Aker BP and Vår Energi to a meeting about the energy crisis in Europe on Thursday 15 September at 08.30. The three companies are the three largest petroleum producers on the Norwegian continental shelf.

16 Sept 2022 - The Minister of Defense will visit FFI on 16 September

 will visit the Norwegian Defense Research Institute (FFI) at Kjeller.

16 Sept 2022 - NOR: The Prime Minister's program week 38

The Prime Minister and ministers normally have these fixed posts in the weekly programme: Government conference on Thursday at 12.30 and Minister of State at the Palace on Friday at 11 a.m. There are also regular meetings of the Government's security committee (RSU).

16 Sept 2022 - Støre: - My colleagues are talking about a war economy

The Prime Minister met the oil and gas companies to discuss the energy crisis in Europe. After the meeting, he emphasized the seriousness of the energy crisis. 

 

ESTONIA, TALLIN - 16-09-2022

16 Sept 2022 - NATO - Tallinn Estonia: Military Committee in Chiefs of Defence Session

The Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR) is the commander of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization's (NATO) Allied Command Operations (ACO) and head of ACO's headquarters, Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe (SHAPE). The commander is based at SHAPE in Casteau, Belgium. SACEUR is the second-highest military position within NATO, below only the Chair of the NATO Military Committee in terms of precedence.

 

PENTAGON - 16-09-2022

16 Sept 2022 - Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III and Norwegian Defense Minister Bjørn Arild Gram engage in a bilateral exchange at the Pentagon, Washington, D.C., Sept. 16, 2022.




NORWAY - 19-09-2022

18 Sept 2022 - The Secretary of Defense to the United States 18 - 21 September

Defense Minister Bjørn Arild Gram (Sp) is traveling to the USA on 18 September to, among other things, meet his colleague Lloyd Austin in the Pentagon. Gram is also going to Norfolk to visit the US Navy.

 

18 Sept 2022 - The Minister of Defense visits the United States 18.-21. September Defense Minister Bjørn Arild Gram (Sp) travels to the USA.

On Monday 19 September, Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre and Minister of Defense Bjørn Arild Gram will visit the US Navy's 2nd Fleet and NATO's operational command (Joint Force Command) in Norfolk, USA. They will also meet soldiers aboard the aircraft carrier USS Gerald R. Ford.

After Norfolk, the Minister of Defense will continue to Washington DC. Among other things, he will meet his American colleague Lloyd Austin in the Pentagon on Tuesday 20 September.

The security policy situation we find ourselves in now is serious and has changed rapidly. That is why it is more important than ever to engage in close dialogue with close allies, says Defense Minister Bjørn Arild Gram (Sp).  

 

NORFOLK - 19-09-2022

19 Sept 2022 - Støre visited the USA's newest aircraft carrier: - It is important to share information with the USA

Jonas Gahr Støre (Ap), together with Defense Minister Bjørn Arild Gram (Sp), was given an introduction to how the American contribution to security in the Atlantic is during a visit to the aircraft carrier USS Gerald Ford. 

19 Sept 2022 - Norway must rely mostly on its allies

NEWS ANALYSIS: As the leader of Norway’s neighbouring Russia shocked the world again, now with nuclear threats, Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre readily concedes that his government must rely on the US and other NATO allies for any needed defense. They’ve all been gathered at the UN General Assembly in New York this week, but just before that, Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre was flown out to visit a US aircraft carrier at sea.

The carrier visit confirmed once again that the US and Norway are close allies and also that US forces will continue to maintain a strong presence in Norwegian territory, not least along its coast. “What gives Norway security is that we have allies who have capacity,” Støre told newspaper Aftenposten while standing on the deck of the USS Gerald R Ford on Monday.

When asked why he’d taken the time to visit the USS Gerald R Ford at the start of a hectic week in Washington DC and at the UN in New York, Støre told Aftenposten it was to see “the core of Norway’s security.”... Defense Minister Gram added that while Norway “is a small country, it contributes strongly to the NATO alliance through intelligence gathering, new fighter jets, the new surveillance aircraft and special forces.

19 Sept 2022 - Norway Prime Minister, Minister of Defense, SECNAV Visit USS Gerald R. Ford

NORFOLK, Va. - Prime Minister of Norway Jonas Gahr Støre, Norway’s Minister of Defense Bjørn Arild Gram, and the U.S. Secretary of the Navy Carlos Del Toro visited the first-in-class aircraft carrier USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78) Sept. 19, 2022.

“The U.S. is our most important ally. The U.S. pledge to support Norway and Europe in times of crisis and war is essential to our security. Norway and the U.S. have a long tradition of close defense cooperation. We are now seeking to develop this even further,” said Støre.

Støre and Del Toro also had the opportunity to hold a series of strategic meetings aboard. 


19 Sept 2022 - Distinguished visitors from the Office of Management and Budget

20 Sept 2022 - HMS Queen Elisabeth - NORFOLK, Va. - The amphibious assault ship USS Wasp (LHD 1) had the honor of hosting HMS Queen Elizabeth during the ship’s stay.

On Sept. 20, 2022, it moored at Pier 12 in Naval Station Norfolk for a short stop before taking part in a national conference in New York. 

 

PENTAGON - the FOLLOWING DAY

20 Sept 2022 - Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III Remarks Welcoming Norwegian Defense Minister Bjørn Arild Gram to the Pentagon

...I'm also mindful of the crucial role that Norway plays as NATO's eyes and ears in the Arctic...

Your support - or you support the entire alliance with efforts like Exercise Cold Response, which wrapped up its ninth edition this March.

So Mr. Minister, thanks for all you're doing for our shared security and thanks again for making the trip and I look forward to a great discussion.

20 Sept 2022 - Secretary Austin Meeting with Norwegian Defense Minister Bjørn Arild Gram

03:25 min video: "...The North Atlantic and the Arctic is gaining strategic importance and the United States and Norway, are working closely together on intelligence, maritime surveillance, repositioning of material and reinforcement of forces, training and exercise. It´s important close cooperation,... the World is becoming a more dangerous place,... Democracy needs to prepare for longer confrontation beyond the war in Ukraine..." 

20 Sept 2022 - SECDEF Austin Norway Bilateral Engagement

Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III and Norwegian Defense Minister Bjørn Arild Gram engage in a bilateral exchange at the Pentagon, Washington, D.C., Sept. 20, 2022.

20 Sept 2022 - Readout of Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III's Meeting with Norway's Minister of Defense Bjørn Arild Gram

Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III welcomed Norwegian Minister for Defence Bjørn Arild Gram to the Pentagon.

The leaders discussed the strength of our bilateral defense relationship and ongoing work to support Ukraine. They discussed shared security interests in Europe, the Arctic, and across the globe, and bilateral and NATO efforts to advance them. The two leaders look forward to further bilateral cooperation.

Secretary Austin and Minister Gram exchanged views on the Russian Federation’s unprovoked and unjustified invasion of Ukraine. Secretary Austin reaffirmed U.S. support for Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, and thanked Minister Gram for Norway’s substantial contribution to Ukrainian security. The two also touched on threats to Arctic Security from Russia. Both agreed that the Arctic is a region that is growing in geostrategic importance.

Secretary Austin thanked Minister Gram for Norway’s approval of the Supplementary Defense Cooperation agreement, which will provide substantive projects that will increase bilateral security cooperation, particularly in the Arctic.

"Supplementary Defense Cooperation Agreement (SDCA) will facilitate more rapid and effective deployment of reinforcements to Norway from the US in the event of a war or crisis." 

21 Sept 2022 - Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III meets with senior enlisted leaders, the Pentagon, Washington, D.C., Sept. 21, 2022

 

22 Sept 2022 - Chief of Naval Operations Meets with Chief of Royal Australian Navy; Discusses Increased Operations and Partnership

Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) Adm. Mike Gilday hosted the Royal Australian Navy’s Chief of Navy Vice Adm. Mark Hammond at the Pentagon, Sept. 22.

22 Sept 2022 - US considers suspending ‘special relationship’ label after Liz Truss visit

“We'll shut it down until we can figure out what's going on.”

 

23 Sept 2022 - CNO and Commander of Belgian Navy Meet; Discuss Increasing Capabilities and Capacity

Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Mike Gilday met with the Commander of the Belgian Navy Rear Adm. Jan de Beurme at the Pentagon for an office call, Sept. 23.

The leaders discussed building maritime capabilities and capacity, as well as deterrence, defense and the need to continue to protect the stability and prosperity of the seas.

“Collectively, our capacity expands when we sail in company with like-minded navies around the world, and we are grateful for the continued partnership and collaboration with Belgium,” said Gilday. “We will continue to strengthen the bonds we share through increased operations, interoperability, and continued cooperation."

Both heads of navy emphasized the need to develop high-end warfare capabilities, such as advanced mine countermeasures and ballistic-missile defense, while also leveraging enhanced capabilities and technology. The Belgian navy is currently leading a Belgian-Dutch mine countermeasures replacement program, which will supply the Belgian and Royal Netherlands navies with six new minehunter vessels each.

25 Sept 2022 - Office of Management and Budget at USS Ford 

 

[MRT: Is this the same group as on 19th of September or another 2nd visit?] 

NORWAY

26 Sept 2022 - NOR: State Secretary Eivind Vad Petersson attended a meeting with the marine insurance company Gard about challenges in connection with the sanctions against Russia.

26 Sept 2022 - Norway oil safety regulator warns of threats from unidentified drones

26 Sept 2022 - Norway calls for vigilance over unidentified drones near oil and gas fields

26 Sept 2022 - The Minister of Defense will visit the Norwegian Navy at Haakonsvern on Monday 26 September / Bjørn Arild Gram | Ministry of Defence

Defense Minister Bjørn Arild Gram will visit Bergen on 26 September.

Gram will meet management and personnel at the Norwegian Navy's base at Haakonsvern. He will receive an orientation at the National Naval Operations Centre, visit the frigate squadron, Bogøytoppen, the minesweeper squadron and the corvette squadron. The Chief of the Norwegian Navy hosts the visit, which lasts the whole day.

27 Sept 2022 - The Norwegian Defense Forces have had a patrol ship in the area since yesterday.

 

PENTAGON - NORFOLK

27 Sept 2022 - Pentagon: CNO Delivers Remarks at Combined Joint Operations from the Sea Centre of Excellence Future Maritime Warfare Symposium *(Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Mike Gilday)

Admiral Bauer … Admiral Dwyer … Fellow Heads of Navy … Shipmates … Good morning!

27 Sept 2022 - CNO Delivers Remarks at Combined Joint Operations from the Sea Centre of Excellence Future Maritime Warfare Symposium 

I hope you will all accept my regrets for not being able to attend in person today. Believe me when I tell you … I’d rather be down there in Norfolk … where I can smell the salt water … the water front … and listen to the world-class discussions that you are having today. I’ll just have to live vicariously through Victoria Krikorian and Admiral Dwyer for the next couple of days.

NOTE -> Ms. Krikorian is the Foreign Policy Advisor to the Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral Dwyer is a commander of US Second Fleet responsible for operations in the East Coast and North Atlantic Ocean.

 

PUBLIC PERCEPTION MANAGEMENT

27 Sept 2022 - The C.I.A. had warned European governments of potential attacks on pipelines

[MRT; Was this information released to protect the USA?]

 

BLINKEN´S "TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY" QUOTE:





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Sunday, December 17, 2023

25 Sept 2022 - Blinken on a potential U.S. response to nuclear weapons | 60 Minutes



Interview 1 day before Nordstream is attacked
the USA could not stop the attacker
and now tries to de-escalate

This post is a small but important part of another post:
"The USA de-escalates possible Russian nuclear response even before Nordstream is hit, NATO protect Trans-Atlantic alliance afterwards"




25 Sept 2022 - Secretary Antony J. Blinken Interview With 60 Minutes on CBS With Scott Pelley

QUESTION: How concerned should Americans be about the prospect of nuclear war?

SECRETARY BLINKEN: Scott, we’ve heard a lot of irresponsible rhetoric coming out of Vladmir Putin, but we’re focused on making sure that we’re all acting responsibly, especially when it comes to this kind of loose rhetoric. We’ve been very clear with the Russians publicly and as well as privately to stop the loose talk about nuclear weapons.

QUESTION: Privately, the United States has been in communication with the Kremlin about these threats of nuclear war?

SECRETARY BLINKEN: Yes, it’s very important that Moscow hear from us and know from us that the consequences would be horrific, and we’ve made that very clear.

QUESTION: You called the nuclear talk loose talk, but isn’t Vladimir Putin telling us what he’s going to do if he is backed any further into a corner?

SECRETARY BLINKEN: Vladimir Putin has a clear way out of the war he started, and that’s to end it. If Russia stops fighting, the war ends. If Ukraine stops fighting, Ukraine ends.

QUESTION: Is there anyone in the Kremlin who can tell Vladimir Putin, “No,” if he decides to launch a battlefield nuclear weapon?

SECRETARY BLINKEN: They have a chain of command – whether it works or not, to be seen – but I think what you’re pointing to is a larger challenge, and that is the Achilles Heel of autocracies anywhere, there is usually not anyone who has the capacity or the will to speak truth to power. And part of the reason I think Russia has gotten itself into the mess that it’s in is because there is no one in the system to effectively tell Putin he is doing the wrong thing.

QUESTION: In our interview last week, President Biden told us that he had a message for Vladimir Putin on the use of nuclear weapons.

President Joe Biden, last week: Don’t, Don’t, Don’t.

QUESTION: He went on to say the U.S. response would be “consequential.” What did he mean by that?

SECRETARY BLINKEN: I’m not going to get into what the consequences would be. Any use of nuclear weapons would have catastrophic effects for, of course, the country using them, but for many others as well.

QUESTION: If you can’t give us specifics about a U.S. response, can you tell us that the administration has a plan?

SECRETARY BLINKEN: We do.

QUESTION: Is it a plan that would prevent World War III?

SECRETARY BLINKEN: President Biden has been determined that as we are doing everything we can to help the Ukrainians to defend themselves, as we’re doing everything we can to rally other countries to put pressure on Russia, we’re also determined that this war not expand, not get broader.

LETS ROLL BACK:

THIS is the USA feeling the need to de-escalate:

So the USA folds and withdrews from Baltic sea:

21 Sept 2022 - Ex-Putin adviser warns UK cities could be hit with nuclear weapons if Britain ‘continues to be aggressor’

Sergey Markov says ‘a lot of people in Western countries’ could be killed in nuclear war on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme

An ex-adviser to Vladimir Putin has claimed UK cities could be a nuclear target for the Russian president and blamed the Ukraine war on the West as he launched into a bizarre rant on British radio.

Sergey Markov made a host of unsubstantiated claims - including that Western countries are using Ukrainian soldiers “as slaves” - before shouting down the phone line during his interview.

He threatened the West with nuclear war before he was asked any questions on BBC’s Today programme on Wednesday morning.

“Good morning to you,” the presenter said, to which the ex-Putin advisor replied: “Good morning. Well it’s not good morning ... for everybody.”

He continued: “For Western countries, for you, British listeners, I would say that Vladimir Putin told us he would be ready to use nuclear weapons against Western countries, including nuclear weapons against Great Britain.

Mr Markov said “your cities will be target..” before being interrupted.

After claiming Russia wanted peace, Mr Markov was challenged by the BBC presenter who said: “You haven’t been talking much about peace, have you? You’ve just threatened us all with complete destruction, nuclear missiles coming to London, you said, and now you talk about peace.”

Mr Markov replied: “If Great Britain continues to be aggressor against Russia, if the prime minister of Great Britain, Liz Truss, still has a plan to destroy Russia, people in London should understand this threat comes from Liz Truss who is aggressor.”

 



The NATO died,

or was "zombified"

the USA has chosen own security over the security of its NATO allies

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